nato and others in order to do that. i can't go into those today because i'm not read in on them yet. i'm not briefed in on exactly what those contingencies are. i know they are making them and they are deeply concerned about it. >> should we feel some confidence that russia and china might join into an international effort on chemical weapons should there be concerns about what happens to those weapons? >> i can't tell you whether or not -- again, i just don't know about the details of the plans. i do know that they have expressed public concerns about that, and in fact i do know there were conversations with the russians when the first indicators took place about the potential of movement. and the russians apparently were deeply concerned and may also weighed in at that time. i think there is a serious concern everywhere that those weapons not fall into the wrong hands. . the senator mentioned the good work you did on the committee, one of the efforts of this administration has been to promote business advocacy abroad